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>> and how much of this is about republican politics, he didn't support john mccain. even though they were former friends. a lot of republicans question whether he's really republican. >> i think on foreign policy, he clearly differs from republicans on foreign policy. he may be a strong fiscal conservative in those ways. >> but he would say, how do you define -- >> but if he defines himself as a republican, he will get a nomination, but clearly that's not the case. clearly president obama is choosing to spend political capital on this nomination. there are other things, refusing to designate hezbollah as a terrorist organization, something that 88 senators signed a letter on. he was one of 12 who refused to designate hezbollah as a terrorist organization. there are multiple positions like that which the american public will get to see, the senate will get to ask him questions about, and beyond that, there are left-wing groups that are against him. even though he apologized about his comments about gays. this is a time where the military is reintegrating, they're gett
>> and how much of this is about republican politics, he didn't support john mccain. even though they were former friends. a lot of republicans question whether he's really republican. >> i think on foreign policy, he clearly differs from republicans on foreign policy. he may be a strong fiscal conservative in those ways. >> but he would say, how do you define -- >> but if he defines himself as a republican, he will get a nomination, but clearly that's not the case....
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mccain, which could foretell what we may hear from john mccain. we haven't heard really very much from him about chuck hagel in this context. we have certainly heard from lindsey graham, and we'll hear from john cornyn coming up on this program who has been fiercely critical. >> i would say andrea two people to watch. you've got one. mccain absolutely because he was someone that was close to chuck hagel. kind of the reform-minded republicans. they clearly broke, parted ways on iraq. i do think that chuck hagel, politics does always matter. i think the fact that chuck hagel full throatedly endorsed bob kerry in nebraska in 2012 will not sit well with other republicans. i think the other senator we need to watch, which this is chuck schumer, the new york democrat, very powerful form heard of the senatorial campaign committee, you know, widely seen as probably the next leader of the democrats and the senate. who was skeptical about the idea of a hagel pick, in part, because of his past statements on israel. schumer, i assume, will get in line. though
mccain, which could foretell what we may hear from john mccain. we haven't heard really very much from him about chuck hagel in this context. we have certainly heard from lindsey graham, and we'll hear from john cornyn coming up on this program who has been fiercely critical. >> i would say andrea two people to watch. you've got one. mccain absolutely because he was someone that was close to chuck hagel. kind of the reform-minded republicans. they clearly broke, parted ways on iraq. i do...
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remember how they thought about john mccain ten years ago when he was running against george bush. chuck hagel has some of the problems that he does. keep in mind, he is as -- we said in intro, he is obama's choice, and, of course, republicans are going to object to him. there's a certain amount of partisan ranker. >> that's a problem, right? once it's completely obvious that they would try to block him because he is obama's choice, but this is not sfw that is traditionally done. we have a statistic somewhere here. do you know how many cabinet nominees have been rejected since 1789? 2%. >> wow. >> the understanding is when a president wants someone to be in his cabinet, you let the president have that person in his cabinet, but michael eric dyson, are we witnessing the dawn of a new era where everything the man wants to do is -- >> i teach hagel, marx, and freud, they're just great people. the reality is that chuck hagel is an independent-minded person. the republicans want your cake and eat it too. you want somebody who is independent and saying, look, i disagree. gently but force
remember how they thought about john mccain ten years ago when he was running against george bush. chuck hagel has some of the problems that he does. keep in mind, he is as -- we said in intro, he is obama's choice, and, of course, republicans are going to object to him. there's a certain amount of partisan ranker. >> that's a problem, right? once it's completely obvious that they would try to block him because he is obama's choice, but this is not sfw that is traditionally done. we have...
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>> i think the fed, john mccain is keeping an open mind on this. that's encouraging if you're chuck hagel in the white house. but i would argue that the most critical meeting chuck hagel will have in the coming days is chuck schumer. he has to be able to answer the questions of the new york senator because he can bring along as many as ten democrats. i was counting last week his statement was coming out after the nomination was announced. notably, the junior senator from new york who takes a lot of cues from chuck schumer. several other senators who are beholden to schumer for helping them get elected in 2006-2008. if the most prominent jewish senator on the democratic side of is there, it could be very difficult for him to get an easy confirmation vote. >> ed o'keefe, michael, thank you. >> thank you. >>> just a reminder, we will have the press conference live here on msnbc that is coming up in about an hour, 11:15. >>> big night for the golden glo glob glob globes for politics. dab el day-lewis won best actor for "lincoln," jessica best actress f
>> i think the fed, john mccain is keeping an open mind on this. that's encouraging if you're chuck hagel in the white house. but i would argue that the most critical meeting chuck hagel will have in the coming days is chuck schumer. he has to be able to answer the questions of the new york senator because he can bring along as many as ten democrats. i was counting last week his statement was coming out after the nomination was announced. notably, the junior senator from new york who...
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john mccain clearly is coming from a different time. i think we are going to start looking at the history books -- we should start looking at people who have served as opposed to these couch talkers. host: can i take a step back and ask you about the relationship and how it has a vault between john mccain and chuck hagel? the bulls came in veterans of the vietnam war, both friends, and now the relationship has evolved. there is question as to whether john mccain support chuck hagel. guest: it has evolved. knowing senator mccain the way i do, he has always been somebody to reaches out to a variety of different folks. he has friends of the other side. i do think the differences between the two senators about barack and afghanistan and other issues -- about iraq and afghanistan and other issues -- all of those things have led to a divergence. the fact that they are no longer best buddies -- at the end of the day washington is about politics. there are opposed opinions to this key security measure. host: chuck hagel served as the chair of t
john mccain clearly is coming from a different time. i think we are going to start looking at the history books -- we should start looking at people who have served as opposed to these couch talkers. host: can i take a step back and ask you about the relationship and how it has a vault between john mccain and chuck hagel? the bulls came in veterans of the vietnam war, both friends, and now the relationship has evolved. there is question as to whether john mccain support chuck hagel. guest: it...
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mccain will end up voting for chuck hagel? >> i don't know if he will or won't, but i know when i believe that chuck hagel will probably be confirmed and that they will find a way back to a friendship or at least a good relationship. >> because of the vietnam experience. >> i think that most people disagree. i believe that chuck shum schumer will vote for chuck hagel. >> let's just point out that we were -- when you see a picture of the east room of the white house, the press corps awaiting, right now hamid karzai and president obama are having lunch, and when they come out, we were told it would be at 1:15. if they come out, they will each make statements and answer questions. clearly the president is also going to be asked about domestic issues. i would suspect guns given that that is one of the prime issues that the white house is dealing with right now as joe biden continues meetings on the gun issue today. chris alissa, when we talk about president obama and what he is facing in changing his team, when david gregory asked
mccain will end up voting for chuck hagel? >> i don't know if he will or won't, but i know when i believe that chuck hagel will probably be confirmed and that they will find a way back to a friendship or at least a good relationship. >> because of the vietnam experience. >> i think that most people disagree. i believe that chuck shum schumer will vote for chuck hagel. >> let's just point out that we were -- when you see a picture of the east room of the white house, the...
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and they quietly say we line up behind john mccain. i think john mccain is critical here, but there's no doubt that mitch mcconnell has to understand that crossing a war hero who saved his brother's life, who is in the mainstream far more so than lindsey graham, in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy, you know, it's going to be a hard guy for mitch mcconnell to vote against. >> as john points out, mcconnell gushed over chuck hagel when he left the senate. on the floor of the senate, he gave a speech that went on and on about chuck hagel. let's be clear, a lot of this is about israel. you heard lindsey graham say it. john mccain has said it as well. they think chuck hagel will be too soft on iran. he suggested maybe that there should be negotiations with hamas, something that people like lindsey graham reject out of hand. that's a big piece of all this. >> if they stop him, it will be on israel and iran. that's, i think, the only issue that potentially stops him. >> remember, he's the secretary of defense. the president's policies are
and they quietly say we line up behind john mccain. i think john mccain is critical here, but there's no doubt that mitch mcconnell has to understand that crossing a war hero who saved his brother's life, who is in the mainstream far more so than lindsey graham, in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy, you know, it's going to be a hard guy for mitch mcconnell to vote against. >> as john points out, mcconnell gushed over chuck hagel when he left the senate. on the floor of the senate, he...
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only four members of the united states senate, john mccain being the fouferment i mean so what you have in kerry and hagel are two men who have seen war up front and up close, and who have become far more reluctant to deploy americans. they don't talk in the ancient language of swagger how we are going to go in and kick some tail, or anything of the sort like so many of the noncombatants do. so i think that hagel, i think brennan will bring up a discussion. we'll find out how lib ralts, in fact, they really do care about the use of drones in this administration. the seems to have given a pass to president obama, used drones more than president bush ever did and i think the republicans will use it to discuss benghazi but i think will confirmed as well. >> woodruff: both of them. you were talking about a group of loners. what are these choices and what we know so far about the president's white house staff and cabinet say about the president, david. >> it's not exactly great copy for us. they are not the most exciting group, necessarily. they are a group that has, are people of integrity,
only four members of the united states senate, john mccain being the fouferment i mean so what you have in kerry and hagel are two men who have seen war up front and up close, and who have become far more reluctant to deploy americans. they don't talk in the ancient language of swagger how we are going to go in and kick some tail, or anything of the sort like so many of the noncombatants do. so i think that hagel, i think brennan will bring up a discussion. we'll find out how lib ralts, in...
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it's not just that he has difficult personal relationship but he really offended john mccain in 2008. he didn't endorse barack obama but he traveled with him and that was a tacit endorsement going to iraq and afghanistan with obama and it really angered mccain. >> governor barbour, one of the questions that andrea raised in discussions with us this week is how does somebody who has got such a tough relationship with republicans help this president lead big budget cut backs at the pentagon? won't that be tough on capitol hill? . >> it remains to be seen. he wasn't picked to improve the president's relationship with republicans. like general powell, not sure exactly why he was picked but as andrea said, normally, the presidents get their choices for the cabinet. these hearings, i think, will be contentious, particularly on iran, israel, hamas and hezbollah. we will see. i should tell you, chuck hagel and i have been friends since the mid'70s when we were young staffers. his wife was from meridian, mississippi. that maybe enough to help him. [ laughter ] but the fact of the matter is thi
it's not just that he has difficult personal relationship but he really offended john mccain in 2008. he didn't endorse barack obama but he traveled with him and that was a tacit endorsement going to iraq and afghanistan with obama and it really angered mccain. >> governor barbour, one of the questions that andrea raised in discussions with us this week is how does somebody who has got such a tough relationship with republicans help this president lead big budget cut backs at the...
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mccain, obviously a troubling factor in terms of mccain's response. >> he is well quadfied. i have known him for years. the president has known him for years. he is entitled to have the people he wants for his cabinet, unless there's? fundamental character flaw or policy difference which would make that person unqualified. i think you have to start with that premise, and i think you start with that premise, then you will not find the disqualifying factors there. chuck hagel is well known to the president. he is very, very well founded in foreign policy, security policy. he is a substantive individual, serious-minded, tough-minded, and blunt. >> is he tough enough to cut the pentagon budget where you know in this era that it has to be deeply cut? can he get that through without republican allies because he does seem to be short of republican allies? >> well, i think republicans and democrats are going have to decide what is our mission. what are the threats? what are the requirements to meet those threats, and then devise a budget that needs -- if you start with a premise, we
mccain, obviously a troubling factor in terms of mccain's response. >> he is well quadfied. i have known him for years. the president has known him for years. he is entitled to have the people he wants for his cabinet, unless there's? fundamental character flaw or policy difference which would make that person unqualified. i think you have to start with that premise, and i think you start with that premise, then you will not find the disqualifying factors there. chuck hagel is well known...
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john mccain has been a politician drought his career driven by personal grudges -- >> like susan rice? >> yes. that was another case part of what was driving him. in this case, i do think part of what he would say, if he were here, back to the policy point, there's no greater champion of the iraq war and surge and everything that happened after that than john mccain was and no greater critic of that than republican chuck hagel. he would make the case it is not just a personal thing although i believe part of it is personal and this element they do have very different world views now. >> which is why the confirmation hearing and his answers will be that much more critical than earlier. >> they also, as you mentioned, harold, reservations from democrats with members of the party stopping short of offering hagel a full throated endorsement. senator chuck schumer of new york released a statement reading in part quote chuck hagel has earned the right to nothing less than a full and fair process in the senate. i look forward to fully studying his record and exploring his views. at the white
john mccain has been a politician drought his career driven by personal grudges -- >> like susan rice? >> yes. that was another case part of what was driving him. in this case, i do think part of what he would say, if he were here, back to the policy point, there's no greater champion of the iraq war and surge and everything that happened after that than john mccain was and no greater critic of that than republican chuck hagel. he would make the case it is not just a personal thing...
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john mccain spoke out a little bit against him. his statement about brennan was a lot less harsh than the one about hagel. it looks like he's in good shape some of the civil liberties groups may want to testify at brennan's hearing. the question is how much, if anything, did he know about waterboarding and these other interrogation techniques during the bush administration. he said he wasn't involved. that will be the big question at his hearing. >> bill: david you and i have seen john brennan on the few times he's come into the white house briefing room. i remember particularly when he came in right after the osama bin laden mission right and described to us what happened. it turned out some of the information he gave us was not correct. he was giving all of the information he had at the time. he's always impressed me as one tough cookie. >> very much so. yes. he's a 24/7 kind of guy. always on the job. everything that happens you see brennan briefing the president. he's always around. rare guys who has good contacts in both parti
john mccain spoke out a little bit against him. his statement about brennan was a lot less harsh than the one about hagel. it looks like he's in good shape some of the civil liberties groups may want to testify at brennan's hearing. the question is how much, if anything, did he know about waterboarding and these other interrogation techniques during the bush administration. he said he wasn't involved. that will be the big question at his hearing. >> bill: david you and i have seen john...
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. >> reporter: it's a view many republicans share including senator john mccain who spoke on cbs' "face the nation." >> do you think an assault weapons ban can pass the congress? >> no. >> do you think it should? >> no. >> reporter: the nra is pushing for laws that would restrict the mentally ill from owning guns. susan mcginnis, cbs 5, washington. >> democratic senator charles schumer from new york is urging major gun retailers including walmart and sports authority to suspend sales of assault style weapons. >>> people in newtown, connecticut are facing a difficult decision. what to do with a school that was the scene of a massacre. residents passed the high school aud -- packed the high school auditorium yesterday to discuss the future of sandy hook elementary school where 26 people were killed. >> the school is broken and we are going to fix it, my 2-year- old things. my own opinion is i don't want to see the land and the building stay empty and broken. i want to do something with it. >> some residents say they would report turning it into a memorial park. so far there's no firm deci
. >> reporter: it's a view many republicans share including senator john mccain who spoke on cbs' "face the nation." >> do you think an assault weapons ban can pass the congress? >> no. >> do you think it should? >> no. >> reporter: the nra is pushing for laws that would restrict the mentally ill from owning guns. susan mcginnis, cbs 5, washington. >> democratic senator charles schumer from new york is urging major gun retailers including...
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i'll ask john mccain. and a lottery winner poisoned with sigh nycyanide. and the terrifying end to a hot air balloon ride this wedding party will never forget. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> the push for new gun laws in the wake of the connecticut school shooting has a powerful new voice, the congresswoman gabriel giffords. she was gravely wounded in a mass shooting exactly two years ago today. lisa sylvester is here with more on what's going on. >> leaders from both the private and public sectors are starting to offer specific proposals on gun controls. both sides aware of how sense y sensitive this issue has become. and the leading voice comes from someone with political and personal experience that is sure to command attention here in washington. on the two-year anniversary of the tucson shooting and a week after a visiting to newtown, gabby giffords wants to send a wake-up call to washington when it comes to gun violence. >> when it can happen to children in a classroom, it's time to say -- >> enough. >> reporter: giffords and he
i'll ask john mccain. and a lottery winner poisoned with sigh nycyanide. and the terrifying end to a hot air balloon ride this wedding party will never forget. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> the push for new gun laws in the wake of the connecticut school shooting has a powerful new voice, the congresswoman gabriel giffords. she was gravely wounded in a mass shooting exactly two years ago today. lisa sylvester is here with more on what's going on....
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>> didn't john mccain give us sarah palin? the same person we're just talking about a couple of minutes ago. wasn't john mccain the one whose ticket included an individual who was part of the courtship of those racist voters i was just talking about earlier? so, no, he won't accept that because he saw during the campaign rallies individuals that were holding up signs that said kill then senator obama. why would you embrace someone who doesn't come out against that action? >> quickly on that last note. carol, here's the deal. i am always, and republicans are always forced to defend the worst elements that exist in this country who label themselves under the brand of republican. are there racists within the republican party? yes. are there racists within the democratic party? emphatically, yes. are there anti-semites within the democratic party? yes. we don't have to sit here on a weekly basis and say why is it that l.z. won't and democrats won't call out and ostracize the worst elements of his party over and over again. we don'
>> didn't john mccain give us sarah palin? the same person we're just talking about a couple of minutes ago. wasn't john mccain the one whose ticket included an individual who was part of the courtship of those racist voters i was just talking about earlier? so, no, he won't accept that because he saw during the campaign rallies individuals that were holding up signs that said kill then senator obama. why would you embrace someone who doesn't come out against that action? >> quickly...
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. >> and if you're john mccain i am sure there is something you could find about him, maybe that he works for a guy called barack obama. that would be enough. the fact that he negotiated a deal, which republicans didn't fare well in, in terms of the tax deal. this guy is so confirmable. >> all right, richard wolff gets the last word. >>> out of the way. obama's coming. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. i think we're looking at a new barack obama. you know the expression let reagan be reagan. i think we're seeing barack obama be barack obama. an in your face challenge to the right wing. he's putting in a guy who knows the lessons of vietnam and iraq and putting him out front, making him his point man as he goes into the war of hawkish republicans who count the months between wars as an unwanted time-out. who like nothing more than the next war to fight. meet barack obama two. he's going to run the way he believes to do it. i like it. i think there's one guy out there by the way ironically rooting for obama. it's t
. >> and if you're john mccain i am sure there is something you could find about him, maybe that he works for a guy called barack obama. that would be enough. the fact that he negotiated a deal, which republicans didn't fare well in, in terms of the tax deal. this guy is so confirmable. >> all right, richard wolff gets the last word. >>> out of the way. obama's coming. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me...
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>> norman rockwell. >> stephanie: john mccain said that. he said he's not really a republican by his standards which are new apparently. jim, who said hagel was a respected leader in america who served his country admirably with honor and distinction? >> sarah palin. >> stephanie: no. [ buzzer ] also john mccain. of chuck hagel. >> interesting. when did that change? [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: who said chuck hagel has a clear voice on foreign policy and national security? >> who said that? john mclean. >> stephanie: no. senator mitch mcconnell. he said that previously about chuck hagel. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: who said hagel understands the world better than almost anyone. who said that? >> some hypocrite? >> stephanie: right. [ buzzer ] [ ding ding ] >> stephanie: that would be senator lamar alexander from tennessee. seem to have a different feeling about him at some previous point. senator dick durbin yesterday. >> a person has a -- include service on the foreign relationses committee. yes, he's a serious
>> norman rockwell. >> stephanie: john mccain said that. he said he's not really a republican by his standards which are new apparently. jim, who said hagel was a respected leader in america who served his country admirably with honor and distinction? >> sarah palin. >> stephanie: no. [ buzzer ] also john mccain. of chuck hagel. >> interesting. when did that change? [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: who said chuck hagel has a clear voice on...
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mccain in 2008. he stressed independence from the jewish lobby. critics biggest concern is whether he is tough enough on iran. >> secretary panetta, the current secretary of defense said there is a red line there over which we will not allow iran to cross. the president had different times has said the same thing. chuck hagel has said previously that he doesn't believe that we ought to keep all options on the table when it comes to an iranian nuclear threat. >> the white house says hagel has been strongly supportive of israel's security. they say his views are insync with the president. as you alluded hagel apologized for calling a u.s. dip openly aggressively gay 14 years ago. shepard? >> shepard: much less opposition to john brennan's nomination, correct? >> there do seem to be fewer concerns but that doesn't mean less concerns. 25 years at the cia before becoming the president's counter terrorism advisor. he was considered for the cia post in 2008 but withdrew his name because he didn't want the c
mccain in 2008. he stressed independence from the jewish lobby. critics biggest concern is whether he is tough enough on iran. >> secretary panetta, the current secretary of defense said there is a red line there over which we will not allow iran to cross. the president had different times has said the same thing. chuck hagel has said previously that he doesn't believe that we ought to keep all options on the table when it comes to an iranian nuclear threat. >> the white house says...
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john mccain, lindsey graham. they were the original band of mavericks. not only did they say nice things when he was leaving that. >> went out on the campaign trail together. if they think he is a turncoat, what do they think joe lieberman is? it's a joke. they lost their minds over susan rice. they're doing it again. >> here is more from senator lindsey graham. i want to display this. >> i'll have a hard time voting for anybody to be secretary of defense who believes that the surge was a foreign policy blunder. i'll have a hard time supporting anybody for secretary of defense who believes that the iranians are misunderstood, we should just negotiate with them, not sanction them. >> they're really focusing in on some of the things that he has said in the past, including a guy slur over a decade ago. do these things matter in confirmation? >> first of all, lindsey graham is treated with a lot of respect as some kind of national security expert. but it is quite possible to be pro-israeli and also not for a rush to war with iran. it is not incompatible. in
john mccain, lindsey graham. they were the original band of mavericks. not only did they say nice things when he was leaving that. >> went out on the campaign trail together. if they think he is a turncoat, what do they think joe lieberman is? it's a joke. they lost their minds over susan rice. they're doing it again. >> here is more from senator lindsey graham. i want to display this. >> i'll have a hard time voting for anybody to be secretary of defense who believes that the...
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would john mccain have actually nominated him? >> he doesn't have to nominate him now. he has to figure out which side he stands on. >> there's an important point in history right now where we have to make sure we are very serious with iran. if anybody is out there weakening our position with them, it is incredibly dangerous, and i think it's legitimate for senator mccain or anybody to say, wait a minute. he's an appeaser. does that advance our cause, or does it weaken our cause? so regardless of a blanket -- >> what does serious mean? does serious mean war, or does serious mean we have to take that situation seriously and figure out how we deal with it? >> if i may interrupt, sir, because i can cede the time back to me, if you will. >> thank you, soled da. >> i feel strong. >> i feel that you feel strongly. we'll have to wait and see. they haven't even named the guy yet. give it a moment, will you? thank you. we appreciate it. politics to the macks, which, by the way, i love that title so much. >> it's a show. >> it's a little mini show right here. someone is going to
would john mccain have actually nominated him? >> he doesn't have to nominate him now. he has to figure out which side he stands on. >> there's an important point in history right now where we have to make sure we are very serious with iran. if anybody is out there weakening our position with them, it is incredibly dangerous, and i think it's legitimate for senator mccain or anybody to say, wait a minute. he's an appeaser. does that advance our cause, or does it weaken our cause? so...
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the question i'm looking at is, will john mccain in the end vote "aye for his old friend and will democrats bail because of his questions about support for israel? >> well, and also that he's a republican. john, that brings me to you. it is not the first time we had cross-party secretaries. in fact, it happens all the time especially in defense, too. but why in particular do you think the president wants this particular man as his sec def? this particular republican. >> comfort zone. less worried about the politics and want someone with whom you're personally comfortable with. you mentioned it's not terribly unusual. become had a republican at the defense department. barack obama kept bob gates, president bush's defense secretary for continuity there because of iraq and afghanistan. now he's in the second term. he's less worried about the politics. he's prepared to have a fight, a fight not only with republicans but with some democrats. a bit of a controversy. we thought on the susan rice nomination for secretary of state. he pulled the name back. the president signaling i want my team. i w
the question i'm looking at is, will john mccain in the end vote "aye for his old friend and will democrats bail because of his questions about support for israel? >> well, and also that he's a republican. john, that brings me to you. it is not the first time we had cross-party secretaries. in fact, it happens all the time especially in defense, too. but why in particular do you think the president wants this particular man as his sec def? this particular republican. >> comfort...
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you know, you listen to people like john mccain, and the idea is you have to continue to invest in a country because we invested all this blood and treasure for all of these years, and it would be wasted. that was the logic of vietnam as well. you can sustain trying to build a nation that many empires have tried and failed before to do so. it's not about karzai anymore. it's not actually about al qaeda. it's not really even about the taliban. it's about pride. it's about the mistakes that have been made and the lives that have been lost. how do you best honor that? >> yeah. >> gail, stay with us, if you can. >>> up next, a preview of "meet the press" with david gregory and "the washington post's" eugene robinson. first bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> we're having our father/son powwow. barnicle is going to control the weather maps. we're going to do the rooerever. >> i'm a high-pressure area. >> yes, you are, hothead. you have to go a little slower. we're confusing people. now we're on saturday already. let's just start with your weekend forecast. you can't go back. that
you know, you listen to people like john mccain, and the idea is you have to continue to invest in a country because we invested all this blood and treasure for all of these years, and it would be wasted. that was the logic of vietnam as well. you can sustain trying to build a nation that many empires have tried and failed before to do so. it's not about karzai anymore. it's not actually about al qaeda. it's not really even about the taliban. it's about pride. it's about the mistakes that have...
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. >> who does john mccain like today besides lindsey? anybody else? >> i don't think so. >> he doesn't like chuck hagel. >> let me disagree with something. this is not a change in policy. the president came in saying he would end the iraq war and the afghan war. he would get rid of the iraq war and take the afghanistan war and slow it down, basically downsize it. that's what he's been doing for the last four years despite the neocons screaming about it all the way. chuck haig segel is a continuatn that. when he had to, he stared down petraeus. [ overlapping speakers ] >> you guys have john boldin after saying this is clinton with somehow faking her concussion. >> i didn't say that. the president can have who he wants. i like chuck hagel. if he gets it, i'm fine with it. >> suppose your guy won the race the guy you thought would win. and he put boldin in, the strange mustache guy. would they have put him in there? >> i don't think romney would have put bolton in. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. that's behind us. that turkey's behind us. >> we got
. >> who does john mccain like today besides lindsey? anybody else? >> i don't think so. >> he doesn't like chuck hagel. >> let me disagree with something. this is not a change in policy. the president came in saying he would end the iraq war and the afghan war. he would get rid of the iraq war and take the afghanistan war and slow it down, basically downsize it. that's what he's been doing for the last four years despite the neocons screaming about it all the way. chuck...
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john mccain and other conservatives say soft with the end of the iraq war and the president's comfortable with him and comfortable with the new cia chief. the president doesn't have to face re-election. this is the second term a different set of calculations and thinks he has work to do, diplomacy. they think they'll win in the end. >> i want to ask you about hagel's israel comments because he made some pretty pointed comments about israel and going to quote them. in one, hagel said, i'm not an israeli senator. and another, quote, the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. now, republicans are saying those comments are very controversial. are they? >> sure. some ways they're candid. you know the israeli government and the american jewish lobby is very powerful in washington. that's a simple fact of life and politics. he is saying it in a blunt, diplomatic way. but he's reflecting a powerful reality which is the israeli government has a lot of sway with american politics. because of the blunt language, he will have some explaining to do and what all nominees have to do. he has t
john mccain and other conservatives say soft with the end of the iraq war and the president's comfortable with him and comfortable with the new cia chief. the president doesn't have to face re-election. this is the second term a different set of calculations and thinks he has work to do, diplomacy. they think they'll win in the end. >> i want to ask you about hagel's israel comments because he made some pretty pointed comments about israel and going to quote them. in one, hagel said, i'm...
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john mckenna -- john mccain and i were the only two. we were the only two republicans who voted to stop the bill because we thought it was irresponsible. i think there was a campaign dynamic, and i have no question in my mind there was a political dynamic to that. some of my colleagues felt strongly about that. i do not think the broad based approach worked. >> is there anything conservative about that? >> not that i am aware of. the way it was done was done dishonestly. we had a budget resolution in place that said we would not ask anything. we went over $400 billion over 10 years. it was a budget rubble rigid budget resolution in place, so strangely enough the and ministration came back region -- it was a budget resolution in place, so strangely enough they came out with that. they said, they were told not to give congress real numbers, that the number was somewhere in the $600 billion cost. now it is about $850 billion, and it is probably going to be in the trillions. it was very dishonest the way it was handled. >> handicapped the c
john mckenna -- john mccain and i were the only two. we were the only two republicans who voted to stop the bill because we thought it was irresponsible. i think there was a campaign dynamic, and i have no question in my mind there was a political dynamic to that. some of my colleagues felt strongly about that. i do not think the broad based approach worked. >> is there anything conservative about that? >> not that i am aware of. the way it was done was done dishonestly. we had a...
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but today on "face the nation," senator john mccain called hagel a friend, though he has questions and is annoyed at how the white house has handled the nomination. >> usually wprevious presidents, republican and democrat, when they are considering nominations, they call in the other side and the key members on the other party and say, hey, i am thinking about nominating mr. "x," what do you think about it? there has been none of that. >> reporter: the former secretary of the joint chiefings and colin powell gave his backing to hagel, even though he was one of the largest critics of the war in iraq, a war that powell helped to sell to the american people. he tried to stop the surge, calling it the biggest foreign policy blunder since vietnam. >> he is superbly qualified, based on his overall record and seferts to his country and based on how he feels about troops, veterans and families. i think he will do a great job as secretary of defense. i think in his confirmation hearings, all of these issues that you have raised -- that others have raised -- he will be prepared to deal with them
but today on "face the nation," senator john mccain called hagel a friend, though he has questions and is annoyed at how the white house has handled the nomination. >> usually wprevious presidents, republican and democrat, when they are considering nominations, they call in the other side and the key members on the other party and say, hey, i am thinking about nominating mr. "x," what do you think about it? there has been none of that. >> reporter: the former...
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interesting to watch john mccain. mccain part of the group of -- who embraced hagel. vietnam vets together they used to pal around with john kerry and max cleland and chuck rob, vietnam senators but differed in the past few years and there's tension there. mccain's the key person. for brennan, brennan has a weak spot he was pro-cia, waterboarding type of activities, mccain was opposed to that. mccain's in the spotlight the next week. >> talk about women. we've had three major appointments so far, three major suggestions at the moment. kerry, brennan and hagel. we know the treasury secretary's leaving. we haven't had somebody named but there are not a lot of women's names floating around, as potentials. why no more women in the cabinet? >> well, we're just losing two high-profile women in the obama administration, hillary clinton, but also lisa jackson at epa. it is -- seems to me the president's going to want to try to get in his last remaining appointments some women in play. susan rice can stay in at u.n. but you want to get a few more. you might see more women beco
interesting to watch john mccain. mccain part of the group of -- who embraced hagel. vietnam vets together they used to pal around with john kerry and max cleland and chuck rob, vietnam senators but differed in the past few years and there's tension there. mccain's the key person. for brennan, brennan has a weak spot he was pro-cia, waterboarding type of activities, mccain was opposed to that. mccain's in the spotlight the next week. >> talk about women. we've had three major appointments...
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john mccain saying he's going to have serious questions about where john brennan stood as far as those enhanced interrogation techniques were concerned dealing with detainees at guantanamo bay and elsewhere, the critics call it torture. you study this closely, peter. >> i think john brennan will be in an interesting situation when he goes to the confirmation hearing because on the one hand, there are plenty of people in the cia who would claim enhanced interrogation techniques are helpful in the war against al qaeda. and so if he says, well, they weren't, that is something that won't go down too well with some of his future colleagues at the agency assuming he's confirmed. on the other hand, you know, if he says that these techniques produced useful information, that may not go down very well with the senate intelligence committee, which after all has publicly said, senator dianne feinstein, the leader of the committee, saying the techniques have nothing to do with how osama bin laden was finally captured. so that's going to be a kind of fine line to kind of walk. and as fran townsend
john mccain saying he's going to have serious questions about where john brennan stood as far as those enhanced interrogation techniques were concerned dealing with detainees at guantanamo bay and elsewhere, the critics call it torture. you study this closely, peter. >> i think john brennan will be in an interesting situation when he goes to the confirmation hearing because on the one hand, there are plenty of people in the cia who would claim enhanced interrogation techniques are helpful...
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a lot of defense hawks like lindsey gramm and john mccain are saying if we leave too few troops or no troops it would just let the caliban back in and take control in the race all of the gains the u.s. made over the past decade. -- erase all of the gains the u.s. made it. that is where the debate will be. how many troops stay. host: he spoke about some of the meetings he had. is there anything congress is looking at to try to move the process forward? caller: i know senator mitch mcconnell met with president karzai and then he took a delegation to afghanistan. the chairman of the armed services committee was also in the afghanistan with senator jack reed. i think congress will be weighing in on the debate. in addition to 2014, the more immediate concern is the way that the u.s. gets to 2014. we have 56,000 troops in afghanistan at now. the president has not said how he is going to wind up at whatever no. he is at in 2014, whether a gradual drop down or a like sum in the military has suggested, keeping a significant force there for the fighting season before you begin to draw down troo
a lot of defense hawks like lindsey gramm and john mccain are saying if we leave too few troops or no troops it would just let the caliban back in and take control in the race all of the gains the u.s. made over the past decade. -- erase all of the gains the u.s. made it. that is where the debate will be. how many troops stay. host: he spoke about some of the meetings he had. is there anything congress is looking at to try to move the process forward? caller: i know senator mitch mcconnell met...
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one of the top economic advisers for presidential contender john mccain. we absolutely cannot use the debt ceiling limit to argue about what goes in the budget. he says you cannot hold the debt ceiling hostage because you cannot shoot the hostage. the hostages be the american economy. that is what would happen. if we default on our obligations because of failing to raise the debt ceiling, we are going to suffer a further downgrade of the united states credit worthiness. interest rates will go up. think about what happens to our economy when interest rates go up. it means that companies have a harder time investing in capital equipment. business people have a harder time planning for the future. it would take a fragile recovery and jeopardize it. host: the next fight which president obama said he is open to talking about, more spending cuts and more tax revenue has to be on the table during those talks. let's say it doesn't happen on debt ceiling. where would you agree to spending cuts on the medicare and social security? guest: they are way down on the lis
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sunday he said he was heartened that republican senators john mccain and others had been discussing solutions. but given the country's current fiscal food fight, is it realistic to expect immigration any time soon? republican senator said that there is a way this last week in "the wall street journal." how does the mayor feel about federal state and local immigration initiatives? immigration is not the only topic on the major's agenda. we will be discussing gun control, the economy, and many other matters. some have taken notice of his travel to latin america. some are asking whether and a position -- whether a position in the obama administration is in the cards. please welcome antonio villaraigosa. [applause] >> thank you theresa for that introduction. before i start, i grew up in a home where we are used to serving ourselves. whenever i am served i would like to thank my servers, can we give them a big hand? [applause] i want to thank the members of the press club for this opportunity to speak to you all today. i am truly honored to be here at one of our country's most venerable institutio
sunday he said he was heartened that republican senators john mccain and others had been discussing solutions. but given the country's current fiscal food fight, is it realistic to expect immigration any time soon? republican senator said that there is a way this last week in "the wall street journal." how does the mayor feel about federal state and local immigration initiatives? immigration is not the only topic on the major's agenda. we will be discussing gun control, the economy,...
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senator john mccain from arizona, he disappeared from the issue a little bit so he could run for president. he's back. he's part of some of the negotiations that they're having. we also have senator jeff blake, the new senator from arizona, who has been involved on the issue for a long time. he actually sponsored a bill with a noted liberal, an immigration advocate, louis gutierrez, back when he was in the house. then we have new people. marco rubio, senator from florida, obviously a presidential hopeful, has been involved in the issue. a lot behalf he has to say is about the tone that republicans take. i don't think he's going to be involved in the nuts and bolts, because it's partly because of his presidential ambitions. but he's tried to come up with a middle-ground way, maybe not amnesty, but some sort of legalization, not citizenship. it's not clear how it would work. he speaks very eloquently about this. we'll have to see how that plays out. then there are new people. there's the senator from texas, newly elect senator. he's very conservative. and in order to actually move something
senator john mccain from arizona, he disappeared from the issue a little bit so he could run for president. he's back. he's part of some of the negotiations that they're having. we also have senator jeff blake, the new senator from arizona, who has been involved on the issue for a long time. he actually sponsored a bill with a noted liberal, an immigration advocate, louis gutierrez, back when he was in the house. then we have new people. marco rubio, senator from florida, obviously a...
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kerry, john mccain, none of them was in negative territory. all of them had more people viewing them favorably than unfavorably. this was really something we hadn't seen before in election polling. now, part of that reflects the greater polarization of american politics right now. it used to be the case that a lot of voters of the other side even though they were committed to voting democratic still would like the other guy. i mean, even in 2008, you know, a lot of democrats liked john mccain. they thought he was an okay guy, they just weren't going to vote for him. and now i think we're in a period of kind of greater partisanship in some respects so that his ratings were much lower among obama supporters and democrats in general than is typical for that kind of cross-party opposition. but the bigger issue was among independent voters, among the sort of middle of the electorate. he was just an unappealing candidate, and it wasn't just that they weren't excited about him, they actively didn't like him. to say that you feel unfavorably about som
kerry, john mccain, none of them was in negative territory. all of them had more people viewing them favorably than unfavorably. this was really something we hadn't seen before in election polling. now, part of that reflects the greater polarization of american politics right now. it used to be the case that a lot of voters of the other side even though they were committed to voting democratic still would like the other guy. i mean, even in 2008, you know, a lot of democrats liked john mccain....
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senator joe manchin, west virginia, and john mccain were on the cbs show over the weekend. here's what they have to say about it. >> how we got into a culture of mass violence. if you're just going to say it's all about guns and we need gun changes and bans, you're wrong. >> we need -- >> we need a comprehensive approach. >> do you think an assault weapons ban can pass the congress? >> no. >> do you think it should? >> no. >>steve: it's interesting, harry reid said over the weekend -- in the past harry reid voted against assault weapons bans. harry reid doesn't know whether or not it would pass congress either. he thinks it might get through the senate but it would probably not pass in the house. the other thing is joe biden and his commission are going to come up with their findings. tomorrow they're going to release it. the last time we had the debt commission findings, did the administration pay attention to that? no. >> i think the commission knows what the findings are already. >>gretchen: joe biden heads this committee versus the other committee which was not the vice
senator joe manchin, west virginia, and john mccain were on the cbs show over the weekend. here's what they have to say about it. >> how we got into a culture of mass violence. if you're just going to say it's all about guns and we need gun changes and bans, you're wrong. >> we need -- >> we need a comprehensive approach. >> do you think an assault weapons ban can pass the congress? >> no. >> do you think it should? >> no. >>steve: it's...
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you've been severely criticized by john mccain. he was here in "the situation room" this week and i interviewed him after that tweet calling you and eric schmidt useful idiots, a term that they used to call americans who represented the communism during the stall lynn regime. >> do you think that the north koreans are going to take governor richardson and mr. schmidt to see one of those? i don't think so. and so what this does, it provides a propaganda kind of success for this four-star general saving americans coming to see us. finally, how many trips has bill richardson taken to north korea and what have been the results of it? >> he's pretty tough. he hated the fact you went there, that the north koreans could use you for propaganda purposes. >> let me tell you what i think i've been able to bring back. i've been able to bring back american soldiers, american hostages, the remains of seven of our warriors from the korean war. i don't know if senator mccain knows about that. i'm surprised at the personal nature of his comments. w
you've been severely criticized by john mccain. he was here in "the situation room" this week and i interviewed him after that tweet calling you and eric schmidt useful idiots, a term that they used to call americans who represented the communism during the stall lynn regime. >> do you think that the north koreans are going to take governor richardson and mr. schmidt to see one of those? i don't think so. and so what this does, it provides a propaganda kind of success for this...
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so i'm sure he's going to come out, along with john mccain saying it's outrageous. >> gretchen: we'll see when hillary clinton does testify. they want her to testify before john kerry takes over ostensibly as secretary of state. let's tell but this story. remember aig, they received a huge government bailout. actually i at this part of their company desperately needed and the rest was put upon them. now they're saying they have violated possibly the fifth amendment which would prohibit the taking of private property for public use without just compensation. why is that important? because now they may join with shareholders in this lawsuit filed against the government claiming that, in fact, even though they received this multimillion, billion dollars bailout that they in fact may be due more. >> steve: yeah. they got $182 billion to bail them out because they made some very bad business decisions. now the former ceo is on the outside looking in and he and his lawyer, david boys, they contend there was a punitive interest rate of more than 14% placed on aig. plus federal government too
so i'm sure he's going to come out, along with john mccain saying it's outrageous. >> gretchen: we'll see when hillary clinton does testify. they want her to testify before john kerry takes over ostensibly as secretary of state. let's tell but this story. remember aig, they received a huge government bailout. actually i at this part of their company desperately needed and the rest was put upon them. now they're saying they have violated possibly the fifth amendment which would prohibit...
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sure he might be a centrist like john mccain used to be. but i wouldn't have voted for john mccain then either. >> i hear you. i hear you, ken. >> it's troublesome to hear people say, william, gee, chris christie looks pretty good now because he doesn't like the tea party people either. >> i hear you. we appreciate that. before we run out of time, i want to hear from ross. ross, what do you think about your governor. tell us what you've got? >> he's the screw-over master. he loves to shrink the benefits of the senior citizens and he loves to attack teachers and i work as a crossing guard. i talk to the policemen. their pension hasn't been funded in a year. but he has given the millionaires and corporation in new jersey big tax breaks. >> how did he handy sandy? first were you affected by sandy? >> i wasn't i live about 40 miles from the shore. >> okay how do you think he handled it? >> he is a big wind back. he is not really trying to help the people he was trying to look good. >> that's a fair assessment. i think what we see from the media
sure he might be a centrist like john mccain used to be. but i wouldn't have voted for john mccain then either. >> i hear you. i hear you, ken. >> it's troublesome to hear people say, william, gee, chris christie looks pretty good now because he doesn't like the tea party people either. >> i hear you. we appreciate that. before we run out of time, i want to hear from ross. ross, what do you think about your governor. tell us what you've got? >> he's the screw-over...